A podcast for engineering leaders
The podcast that tackles the gap between development dreams and production reality. Listen to seasoned technical leaders share honest insights about shipping software, managing complexity, and making it all work under pressure.
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Meet the hosts
David is the founding partner of Kisasa. His expertise lies in transforming complex legacy systems through a business-first approach that creates actionable roadmaps rather than theoretical recommendations.
Wael is a partner at Kisasa. He developed the core methodology behind Kisasa's Blueprint process, including the Modern Delivery Stack. He aligns stakeholders and clear roadmaps to system transformation.